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Yulia & Parviz (et al) / Lena & Anatoly
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СообщениеДобавлено: Ср Июн 20, 2007 5:54 pm    Заголовок сообщения: Ответить с цитатой

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Out of curiosity too, what are custody and guardianship laws regarding children in Russia? Does Yulia have sole custody of Vika? Does Pasha have visitation rights or such, why or why not? Are Parviz and Masha going to share custody of their child?


I think Yulia has full custody and decide on her own to allow visitations or not. In May 2006 Yulia said on the TV-interview (Detali with Tina Kandelaki) that she let Pavel see Vika for a while, but later changed her mind, and he doesn't see her anymore.

Perhaps it changed since then, but i doubt it. I guess she wasn't satisfied with his behavior.


Yulia has every right to decide who visits Vika or not as Yulia is her mother however what if when Vika grows up a little and whats to know or keep in regular contact with her biological father? Wouldn't that be a bit cruel on both Vika and Pasha for Yulia to forbid them from seeing each other?

I know this is non of my business whatsoever so I apologise if this post sounds 'out of order', however I strongly believe that everbody has a right to know where they came from without any boundries or restrictions.
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I also remember about that show where Yulia was talking about Vika and Pasha and i also doubt that hes visiting Vika or so.I don't think Yulia changed her mind and im sure she has her reasons for not doing it!
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I think that it is a very valid point you have made here. I think children should have a certain amount of access to both their parents except under special circumstances. Which is why I was curious about custody laws in Russia. Here in the states if a parent wants 100% custody and deny the other parent visitation rights they have to go through procedures in family court. I faintly recollect Yulia mentioning that Pasha is not allowed to visit Vika anymore, so I wonder on what basis the decision was in her favor. Of course I understand that information is personal between Yulia and Pasha, but I am one who likes to reason and speculate.


Thanks RTH.

I'm not sure what the Child custody laws are like in the UK or whether or not their is one single law or group of laws which apply to all EU countries as a whole if you know what I mean. As far as I'm aware though in the UK the mother has all the right over child laws and the father has little or no right at all. I don't know if you remember but a few years ago some nutter from 'fathers4justice' dressed up as Batman and climbed up on Buckingham palace to protest against fathers rights in the UK.

As for Custody laws in Russia I have forund a website about this however I havent had a proper look at it yet.

http://www.divorceinrussia.com/custody

Also I don't remember if I've seen the Detali Interview or not however if Ev says that Yulia did say those things in that interview then I trust that this info is correct.
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All that i know is that my father raised me after divorce between my parents
but my mummy agreed to that (sorry if that is not helping but i needed to say it)
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All that i know is that my father raised me after divorce between my parents
but my mummy agreed to that (sorry if that is not helping but i needed to say it)


Don't apologile for posting your opinion marco. After all this topic is called 'Yulia and Paviz etc' however I'm guessing the last few posts are the 'etc' bit of the topic as we have suddenly started to talk about custody laws in different nations! :)
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СообщениеДобавлено: Чт Июн 21, 2007 7:45 pm    Заголовок сообщения: Ответить с цитатой

OT i just needed to say it : )
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Yulia about Parvis | MTV news block russia | Subtitles | 9 mb
http://www.tatuexclusive.net/media/video/news/MTV_news_blosk_yulia_about_parvis_(20.06.07).wmv
Thanks for the help of translate Anastasya-cool and Dean
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Thanks NFNE! :)
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OMG guys ! it's a awesome day !

Parvis is smiling !!! ^^
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really?OMG!..she did a little move with her face..but he don't talk, he don't open her mouth..Xd.....it's funny...how an intelligent is ..he knows who he have to be with...
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OMG guys ! it's a awesome day !

Parvis is smiling !!! ^^

YES! YES! ITS TRUTH!! xD
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you know Parviz look kinda cute when he's smiling. i watched video over and over just to see that part when he's smiling. and there's Yulias dad too and he was talking with Parviz while Yulia was giving interview-cool!
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he`s kinda funny..but cute ._є, well not my type of guy, though I like his skin color :) hope the baby has his skin color tan skin and have beautiful blue eyes like Yulia <3
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Sorry girl, but you made a serious mistake. You like to fight for someone that is already married and have a child I guess. It's not fair.
You only think about yourself as you said ''We are happy and about Masha, I don't know...'' and your face when you were talking about it. One is sure you have bitc*y character. - Those are my words to Volkova, but I doubt it she will read this. I thought that Yulia is strong and kindful person, but not gentle. You know she likes to saying some vulgar words and etc. , but I didn't expect that she can't respect other people like Masha.
Life is life. It's her life, but it's not fair IMHO. If Parviz haven't already wife it would be normal thing even he would have baby, but he has got child andWIFE Volkova is just unmature. And Masha and her child isn't past. Volkova should realize that it will be always present.
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I think what she said about Mhasa was totally wrong..but..I don't think Yulia is like that...I Mean...We can see a sweet Yulia, and on the other hand..a girl who i don't like so much...and it seems Yulia is sweet and honest with she is with Lena, with her fans...and suddenly, in front of a camera, in a party she become in the bad girl..i don't know what to think..but i think her behaviour is not natural..and every time i see a video like that I feel the same..i think that is like her double identity, the disguise she use every day to protect her real life..
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I think Yulia used the tactic of "the best defense is offense", maybe because she's somewhat DOES worries about Masha's reaction. I don't know. That's life, when people fall inlove, sometimes it hurts other people.

We don't know enough to judge, i guess.
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OMG guys ! it's a awesome day !

Parvis is smiling !!! ^^


Yeah.. and that's scary... Now I understand why he wasnt smiling. He knows that he looks damn scary then...hope the baby doesn't look like Parvis.. it's better if he/she gets the look from Yulia :)
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OMG guys ! it's a awesome day !

Parvis is smiling !!! ^^


Yeah.. and that's scary... Now I understand why he wasnt smiling. He knows that he looks damn scary then...hope the baby doesn't look like Parvis.. it's better if he/she gets the look from Yulia :)


Lool! Good one ..but Honestly I Agree.
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I think Yulia used the tactic of "the best defense is offense", maybe because she's somewhat DOES worries about Masha's reaction. I don't know. That's life, when people fall inlove, sometimes it hurts other people.

We don't know enough to judge, i guess.
You may be right Ev, and you are absolutely right about not knowing enough to judge. But jeez, She is speaking to the media about her relationship, so fans can express opinions not judgements.

What is this rational she has about describing certain aspect of her live as normal? She uses that word a lot in interviews describing what she believes in. I saw or read in an interview, that she admits making emotional decisions. That is basically admitting she uses less logic. Well, than is obvious you would be making more mistakes in the name of normal. Is that her way to justify erroneous decisions? You suppose to learn from your mistakes. It just sounds abnormal for the average person when you make the same mistake over again. Pasha with a young child and wife; Parviz with a young child and wife, Even the names of the boyfriends/husbands are similar. It looks to me she is behaving about five years behind in maturity. Being that young, does not help either. I am sorry to say this does not look like a bright future. Maybe I give them less than five years together. That should be good enough by Hollywood standards. I really hope I am wrong and they stay together forever. Time will tell. In this 10- 2005 MTV Germany on radio Europe Plus Interview Part 2 she said she hated school when she was young and a teacher said to her “you are a fool”. No child should ever be called stupid. I guess their were signs back then of her future decisions. Sorry to say.

“I think if people are interesting in me, it can only mean that I’m interesting!” Wow! Very egotistical. You are missing the point. It is not you they are questioning; it’s your integrity that is on the line.

Already justifying to the world her decision. Feeling the pressure, Yulia. I guess she is not as strong as her image portrayal of bad girl, no man can tame me attitude does not exist anymore. Life changes. Things some do in the name of being in love. Maybe Lena and Yulia are not that close after all. You would think some of Lena common sense; rationality and outlook in life would have rub on her after being together all these years.

On the other hand, it is nice to see Parviz smile for about a nano second. I was beginning to think if the baby gets his DNA/genes more than Yulias. The baby would not cry at delivery because of so much seriousness. A mini-me stone face. Not good.

This is hard for me to admit but shadow and def made some good points on this one. Smiling.

Gosh! I hope it was the editing of this video-interview that made her look bad and not that she is really that callous. Even better that all this is one big joke.

Side Note: It just strickly an opinion and constructive criticism out of care.
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Agter seeing the new pics, I really start to like him. He and Yulia look so happy together and he seems to really support her. + he looks so much better now that he smiles :) Nah I'm happy for them!
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